Eric spoke with the jerk as he called yesterday when I was not here. He said they could go BUT he always has to put these little stipulations in there, this time is no different. he says they can go,but while one travels he wants the other with him. yknow, because we cant have any continuity for the other kids by having their older siblings with them. We cant have an extra pair of hands for whoever is watching the younger ones. and he never wants them unless there is something involved. he doesnt call wanting them every other weekend. not even once a month. once every couple of months and if we have plans then its another couple of months before he asks for them. so its his little way of getting in a dig. like we need the added stress of planning another delivery and pickup of a child while we are trying to get to the airport and get to Ukraine. we will already have to likely travel to his moms or my moms with the younger kids. and you can bet it wont be in his schedule to do it when its conveient for us. Silly me for wanting to show the kids the world, I wish I had never asked.